Interviewer: When we get to those dry summer months, good soil hydrologic function is critical. We visited with Purdue University's Dr. Eilieen Kladviko to talk about the remarkable effect that nightcrawlers have on aiding water flow into and through soils. Interviewer: Well you’re a soil physicist Eileen, so we better talk about. Eileen: We better talk about water flow. Interviewer: Let’s talk about that water flow, because obviously water is a free resource to the farmer. Eileen: Right, in general our soils are excessively wet in the spring and that's more of our issue and that's why we use tile drainage (yes) and things like that. But what I'm getting at really is that the nightcrawlers, in particular, can be very important for getting infiltration of water into the soil during the growing season. So when we get those quick thunderstorms in the middle of the summer, we usually want all that water to go in, because that's not when we have excess water. So we want the water to go into the soil, but, but especially with soils that are high silt, sometimes you can get crusting (yes). You have less crusting of course, if you're in no-till (yes). But if you have a lot of nightcrawlers, those deep channels that the night crawlers make can really help get water into the soil profile, where you have a chance for your crop to use it, as opposed to having it run off. You know an extra inch or two of water in a lot of our summers makes a big difference (okay) in yield (yes, yes). And I happen to have a few demonstrations of some night crawlers, if you'd like to see, nightcrawler channels, if you'd like to see. Interviewer: I would love to see. Eileen: So this is, my technician a number of years ago, went out and poured the liquid rubber, latex basically, that you use in in biology classes, on an area where there were some nightcrawler middens (yes). And then he came back a couple days later, after it had hardened, and he carefully dug it out. And you can see, these were nightcrawler channels, all in in this one square foot area Interviewer: one square foot, yeah. Eileen: And you can see that basically those channels are going down, they've broken a little bit now in the meantime, but some of these channels were down three feet deep (okay). And just imagine water flowing across the surface and into these channels, how much water can flow down those big and deep channels (right), and they're very vertical. You can see that there, Interviewer: So you’ve got the vertical flow and then they have the chance to flow laterally as well? Eileen: Oh yes, yes, right. Once the water is down in the soil, it's going to move out from those. Interviewer: This is a fantastic illustration and this was taken on a farm field? Eileen: Yes Interviewer: WelI, I love this, it’s great. Eileen: Yeah right, yes, I think it's a great demonstration of nightcrawler channels.